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0113 From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com>
0114 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:33:02 -0700
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0136 
0137 Hi all, Mozilla has done a lot of work on telemetry, and we might be
0138 able to use some of their findings. On this page:
0139 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Data_Collection they break down the
0140 data they might possibly collect into four buckets - technical (such
0141 as crashes), user interaction, web activity, and sensitive (personal
0142 data).
0143 
0144 This bit might be relevant to our discussion: "Categories 1 & 2
0145 (Technical & Interaction data)
0146 Pre-Release & Release: Data may default on, provided the data is
0147 exclusively in these categories (it cannot be in any other category).
0148 In Release, an opt-out must be available for most types of Technical
0149 and Interaction data. "
0150 
0151 I think the entire page might be enlightening to this discussion. I
0152 believe our analysis of needs should be more fine-grained, and that
0153 some parts of what we need can be "default on" especially for
0154 pre-release testing. For releases, we can provide an opt-out.
0155 
0156 Other more sensitive data will need to be opt-in. I think it's a
0157 mistake to treat all the data we might want all in the same way.
0158 
0159 Valorie
0160 
0161 
0162 On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 3:18 AM, Christian Loosli
0163 <christian.loosli@fuchsnet.ch> wrote:
0164 > Hi,
0165 >
0166 > thank you very much for this work, sounds great!
0167 >
0168 > Only point I have: maybe make sure that the opt-in / default settings are not
0169 > only mandatory for application developers, but also for packagers /
0170 > distributions.
0171 >
0172 > Some distributions have rather questionable views on privacy and by default
0173 > sent information to third parties, so I would feel much more safe if they
0174 > weren't allowed (in theory) to flick the switch in their package by default to
0175 > "on" either.
0176 >
0177 > Kind regards,
0178 >
0179 > Christian
0180 
0181 
0182 
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0184 http://about.me/valoriez